How do ML practitioners select hyperparameters, architectures, etc for self-supervised representation learning when the loss is non-monotonic? [D]
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Non-contrastive SSL methods like BYOL/JEPA/data2vec seem promising, but I have no idea what is being learned, or how well; it’s models all the way down. Maybe I’ve got supervised tasks for which I’d like to see transfer, and I can evaluate linear probe/KNN results during training, but that seems like a way to efficiently abuse researcher degrees of freedom.
I know RankMe is meant to help address this: embed some data and SVD the embedding matrix. A healthy learner should produce an embedding with a high effective rank.
But JEPA methods already require an entropy-collapse term like Barlow Twins/SIGREG, so the RankMe criterion just becomes part of training. It gets absorbed into a loss which wasn’t monotonic to begin with, and I ought to be able to inflate it by increasing the penalty weight. Surely it’s no longer an effective criterion, right? What else is there?
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