Unpopular opinion : Qwen 3.8 27b is not an overthinker

Yes it uses a ton more reasoning tokens than 3.6 did

But test in on the same tasks with the other chinese models, glm 5.3, deepseek v4 flash and pro, etc it's really similar, and they are needed

The reality is, we're just frustrated because our hardware do not allow most of us to have 1M context (I know that it's not supported yet) with 150 tps decode

Furthermore, if you don't mind the quality drop, you can just add a reasoning budget, it will still be better than 3.6