UkisAI Swift-Qwen3.8-27B / -58.3% thinking, x1.95 speed while keeping the accuracy of xhigh
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| Hi everybody, we post-trained Qwen 3.8 27B to be more efficient by figuring out which tokens were linked to overthinking and penalizing them without "attacking" the reasoning length directly then fixed the accuracy with a bit of secret sauce (hint On-Policy Distillation) and achieved great results (-58% thinking tokens, 1.95x speed up, <1% accuracy loss) so we wanted to open-source it and hear the feedback of the community. This is the link to the model: https://huggingface.co/ukisai/Swift-Qwen3.8-27b We also also providing a Free Research Purpose API (OpenAI compatible), courtesy of Nvidia who were kind enough to provide us with the GPUs. You can use it to try out the model if you do not have enough compute to run it, it's limited at 5RPM. https://ukisai.com/api/swift/v1/models We also made a GGUF (Q1-Q8) and there's also a few nice community (Bartowski) quants with even lower/higher precision. The community also created amazing NVFP4, W4A16 and Uncensored versions of the model you can find on Huggingface. IMPORTANT: Our training approach is not a replacement for the reasoning effort settings, chat templates or token caps but is complementary and targets a completely separate issue (overthinking and "anxiety-like" reasoning loops prior seen in PTQ, but as far as we identified also prominent in BF16 of this size class LLMs as well). Contrary to popular belief, these specific patterns do not contribute to answer quality when properly targeted. (our thesis being: reasoning length IS extremely important and should NOT be shortened by force, but rather optimized). This is also demonstrated bellow in our xhigh vs medium effort benchmark table. The goal is to keep xhigh accuracy while reducing only the unnecessary part of thinking. I will TLDR you on our thought process, research, training and benchmarks.
The benchmarks: (raw benchmark files here - https://github.com/UkisAI/Swift-Qwen3.8-27B-evals/ ) Swift-27B vs Qwen3.8-27B (BF16, all benchmarks ran x5, thinking effort xhigh)
Token savings hold at every reasoning effort (mean thinking reduction): xhigh 41%, medium 23%, low 26% (albeit with accuracy loses of 1-4% on medium and 1-2% on low which we need further testing for) Swift at xhigh vs the base's own effort settings on GPQA-Diamond (198 questions x 5 seeds):
So Swift keeps xhigh accuracy at under half the tokens, and beats base-medium by 4pp at roughly 1.6x its tokens. End note: While we are keen on complete open-source, we still need to keep a part of our training and data private, being a new lab. The license is not Apache 2.0, but it only affects companies >$1M. We hope this does not pose a problem for the community, but we are open to feedback on it. We want to contribute as much as possible to the community and would really appreciate feedback on our work, quantization or Swift model requests. For context, we are working on Swift 3.8 Flash Next right now and have so far gotten up to -30% thinking token usage while maintaining xhigh accuracy, which we take as a strong indicator our methodology is reproducible across the Qwen model family. Will explore other families as soon as we have the capacity and would love to see which ones the community would love for us to optimize first. [link] [comments] |
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